I was saying the same until DeepSeek v4 this morning... sorry, Kimi. The competition is intense!

Fascinated, a bummer that DeepSeek does not offer a DPA or opt-out for training. This renders it unusable for my use cases unfortunately. At least z.ai GLM has a somewhat DPA in Singapore.

The weights are open and you can use the model with any third party provider that gives you the DPA you want.

For my use-case, I want the providers to get my tokens as long as they plan to keep releasing open-weight models

If you don't use a lot of quota the cheapest monthly Claude Code is $20, Kimi Code is $19, i.e. the cost difference is minuscule.

Kimi wants my phone number on signup so a no-go for me.

What provider do you use for Kimi

The provider is a massive issue. People moving off Claude tend to assume this is solved.

Claude's uptime is terrible. The uptime of most other providers is even worse...and you get all the quantization, don't know what model you are actually getting, etc.

Kimi 2.5 was like using Sonnet 4 on a flaky ADSL line. I haven't tried K2.6 yet, but the physical unreliability of the connection was too off-putting.

OpenRouter and I'm toying around with Hermes. Seems good so far, but haven't really gotten into anything heavy yet. Though the "freedom" of not sweating the token pause and the costs not being too high is real.

Straight from them, but I know other providers like io.net can be faster but I like to directly support the project.

Thx. I'll try with my personal projects (because dues to the data collection and ToS most providers are forbidden in my company), if I can opt out of training on my input.

I'm just getting a but tired of using Opus 2.6 which eats my whole allowance and then some £££ going through the 4kB prompt to review ~13 kB text file twice - and that's on top of the sometimes utter bonkers, bad, lazy answers I'm not getting even from the local Gemma 4 E4B.

did you just copy-paste or is there a difference in the way kimi uses skills?

I don’t have the prompt at hand but basically I told Kimi (paraphrasing): I have these Claude code skills, and I know it uses different tool calls than you but read them and re-write them as your own tools.

I also created a mini framework so it can test that the skills are actually working after implementation.

Everything runs perfectly.